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Carburetion and Ignition Tuning std and kit carbs Ignitech Tuning
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For many years, Factory Pro and the EC997 dyno were fixtures at the AMA races - tuning most all the non-dynojet sponsored Supersport teams - and, under cover of darkness and early in the am, more than a few sponsored teams that would show up in street clothes and "naked" bikes using the EC997 dyno and it's high speed 4 and 5 gas Exhaust Gas Analyzer. The results were superior enough that at VIR, the dj guys started threatening teams with loss of free power commanders if they caught them track comparing dj vs EC9977 produced maps. - because the pit scuttlebutt was that the EC997 maps were better and smoother for the rider. Wheelsmith Racing in northern California is one of the few dyno facilities experienced in sorting out tz and rs 250's - having tuned, even for Rich Oliver and Vince Rolleri. Wheelsmith is one of the few tz250 dyno facilities with a load dyno and a 5 gas analyzer.
So - you want to dial in that part throttle
jetting for silky smooth part throttle.
Historical 2
stroke 250gp horsepower chart by Factory Pro
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TUNING FEEDBACK Hey Marc, Just wanted to drop you a line
after having a chance to go and roll around on my
scooter. Some good news and bad news.
Actually, one follows the other. The good
news: the bike is WAY faster. It felt faster
(wheeling out of corners) and felt really good with the
throttle response. And, my subjective opinion is
validated by my datalogger. See attached, x-axis
is track position <m>; y-axis is speed <kph> .
The PURPLE curve is my fastest-ever lap and the
BLUE curve was the third lap in my first session
out after our tuning. You can clearly see how much
harder the bike is accelerating…and check out the
difference in top speed just after the start/finish
straight (first peak in the curve…a full 10kph!). So, i need to regroup a bit, get
everything back in shape and take advantage of my
newfound speed more effectively. Still have a few
things I’d like to test. Tia,
Vince Rolleri
19072 Tonga Lane
Email:
vince.rolleri@dovermotion.com Website: www.dovermotion.com |
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Improve shifting - upshift and downshift | |||
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Factory Pro TZ250 Transmission Detent Arm Decreases shift duration
by 5 to
10 ms. ............................................... So, there you are. - with a real racebike and all......... How could a company like Factory Pro could POSSIBLY ever improve on a genuine Yamaha RACE part! Heck! Factory Pro is in northern California - NOT even in Japan! How could Factory Pro even think that they could make a better part than the other "factory" guys???? Actually......... The goal was to make
the TZ/TZR shift as well as an RS 250 Honda.
Yeah - now it's better than the RS. With the Factory Pro MicroBearing detent arm, instead of having to anticipate downshifts into low speed corners, you can downshift easily, without additional thought being directed to shifting, leaving more mental energy to devote to race strategy. MUCH easier and quicker
downshifting and improved upshifts. The Factory Pro Microbearing Detent Arm removes friction for the quickest shifting short of an air shifter. This is a limited
production part number and includes: Factory Pro Microbearinged
Detent Arm, decreasing the effort required to shift and
decreasing the number of missed shifts. This kit DOES NOT
include cartridge gasket or a stronger detent spring. I guess 250 guys want a box now that will control servo motors and power jets based on engine rpm and throttle position. I'll work on that....... Hmm... I guess you REALLY want 3d mappable ignition timing...... as that's the major limiting factor to power production on the high compression, leaded fuel, USA spec, TZ250's Note: IGNITECH does all that and is cost effective to buy and not difficult to tune, but takes a while to sort out for each bike. I guess it's a not a secret that we sorted out a whole passel of 250's in the 2002 - 2003 AMA seasons on our High Speed EC997 Low Inertia Dynamometer at tracks all across the USA, too. Try to find even consistent
USA top 10 2003 250 person who didn't benefit from the
EC997
dyno's use. If you are doing any 250 dyno tuning at all and were considering using a "dealership level" dyno - it's pretty misleading - as final settings best dyno power settings in a Sweep Test inertia dyno (i.e. dj dynos) are 10% to 20% off of the correct settings as per the real world results and a High Speed EC997 dyno optimal settings - Marc BTW: EC997 Dyno was used and tested on by AMA / Stargel Racing's Chuck Sorrensen, Rich Oliver, Jason DiSalvo, PM's Roland Sands, Bruce Lind, Jeff Malone, Ed Sorbo, Simon Turner, Greg Esser, Corey West, Sandy Noce, Sean Wray, Kent Gormat, Glenn Christianson and many more....
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Stock Detent STAR pics below are for reference only. | |||
Information only
Detent "star" profile |
hold down bolt: 8.0mmx1.25mm |
Rich
Oliver #1 tz250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
John
France rs250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
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Chuck
Sorensen #1 Stargel Aprilia EC997 Dyne System tuned |
Greg
Esser rs250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
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Simon
Turner #3 tz250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
Bruce
Lind tz250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
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no pic | Jason
Di Salvo Cruise America rs250 EC997 Dyne System tuned |
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Factory Pro proved that
dynos CAN WORK in tuning these high strung GP machines. The EC997 dyno is the only dyne system that was primarily designed to tune to the "Nth" degree and that's what riders, racers and tuners want. Common "dealership level" dynos just don't do the job. In other words, if we could consistently
make all of these top ranked 250 Grand Prix riders happy
- the EC997 dyno and it's own integrated Hi Speed 4 gas
EGA should be the the Number 1 choice of any aspiring tuner. |
2004 Congratulations!! #1 Rich Oliver 2004 250 Grand Prix Series AMA National Champion! Unlike
heavy, 900lb behemoth dynos, the
Factory Pro Low Inertia
Eddy Current Dynamometer develops performance on 2 cycle
engines! |
2003 Congratulations!!
#1 Chuck Sorenson 2003 250 Grand Prix Series AMA National Champion! Unlike
heavy, 900lb behemoth dynos, the
Factory Pro Low Inertia
Eddy Current Dynamometer develops performance on 2 cycle
engines! |
Subject: Thanks from Bruce Lind Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:55:57 EDT From: Tzrider2@aol.com To: Marc@factorypro.com but I am concerned about the ignition cutting out or misfiring under load. I make a decision to revise a long standing personal position and run my bike on the Factory dyno. If it does not misfire under that load, then it won't on the track. This will also give me a chance to see what the exhaust gas analyzer shows for the fuel curve with the jetting I have installed and give me a relative indication of horsepower.> > Off I go. Marc and Paul are both there. Just finishing up another TZ250.> I start the engine and roll it up on the dyno. Paul secures
the bike and we start the process. He types a bunch of information
into the computer. Then we start running the engine at various
throttle and rpm settings. When we are all done, the engine
has performed Will I be able to tell the difference in the seat of the pants test? Probably not... By the way, the (corrected) top number at 12,200 rpm was 75.8 True bhp. I have been informed that you normally add 15 % to the Factory dyno True HP number to equate to a Dynojet Dyno. So for braggin rights lets say 87 bhp at the rear wheel. Paul tells me it is the second highest number he has seen on a 250 and very, very close to the highest.> > Both Marc and Paul have a good laugh when they tell me "Well, it's pretty obvious now why you are not winning races" I could have told them that. It's not the bike that is holding me back. Hasn't been for about two decades!> Bruce Lind Message: 1 Links
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